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NOVEMBER 3, 2010


The meeting was called to order by Supervisor McDonough at 7:36 pm at the Rosendale Community Center with the Pledge to the Flag.


                        PRESENT:       Councilman Robert Gallagher

                                                Councilwoman Manna Jo Greene

                                                Councilman Kenneth Hassett

                                                Councilman Richard Minissali

                                                Supervisor Patrick McDonough

            ALSO PRESENT: Jennifer Metzger, Nava Tabak, Heidi Jewett, Rayne Kouhout, Leslie Treut, Ken Oldehoff, Perry Soule, Billy Liggan, Nick Mercurio, Sandy Peterson, Tim Morrison, and Betsy Tuel all members of various Town Commissions, Boards and Committees; plus about 20 residents.


PUBLIC COMMENTS: Supervisor McDonough asked if there were any public comments to be offered that did not pertain to items on the agenda:  Douglas Jones and several other residents of Woodland Drive wished to discussion the cellular tower being considered for Davis Street (if their backyard).  They questioned the Town Code where it states that if a suitable site exists there is no need to go forward looking for alternate sites; is the Rosendale Water Tank a viable site.  Supervisor McDonough responded that this matter is best addressed to the Planning Board; Billy Liggan interjected that he did not believe that this issue is before the Board this month.  Mr. Jones’ group addressed the concern they had about the “balloon test” which was conducted for only two hours instead of four hours and that it was done during the week during work hours when most residents were not home; that test was rescheduled and done on Election Day (11/2/10) and they feel the test site was moved back to an area that was covered with dense foliage.  Supervisor McDonough and Mr. Liggan restated that the applicant (Verizon) was not on the Planning Board agenda for 11/4/10 but the public hearing is still open and comments will still be taken by the Planning Board.


APPOINTMENTS: Supervisor McDonough told the Board that the appointment of Laura Prince to the Board of Assessment Review, which expired on September 30th, needed to be acted upon; Ms. Prince has indicated that she would like to continue on the Board.

A motion was made by Supervisor McDonough to reappoint Laura Prince to a five year term on the Assessment Board of Review; seconded by Councilman Gallagher.  Roll Vote: 5 Yeses.


1). PUBLIC HEARING NATURAL RESOURCES INVENTORY (NRI).     The Notice of Public Hearing was read by the Town Clerk; a brief introduction was given by Supervisor McDonough.  Jennifer Metzger, Environmental Chair, gave an overview of what the NRI is and its uses.  The inventory includes 23 maps, 20 panels are on display in the corridor of the Community Center, and will be available on line.  Ms. Metzger stated that our Town Code we should have this inventory to help with better land use; as a planning tool for land use projects; or anyone for smart use of their land or create open space planning.  Ms. Metzger said that this project has been on the agenda since the 1980’s; the project would have cost $40,000 if it was done by a consultant but with volunteer skills, time the cost was kept to $1,600 plus $1,300 for a software program which the RCCE (Rosendale Commission for the Conservation of the Environment) can use to reflect changes in the ground to keep the maps up-to-date (it is a living document); it should not be used for decisions on projects but to supplement site visits and etc.  Ms. Metzger paid special thanks to Nava Tabak, Vice-Chair, for all her map work and converting the final product from GIS to PDF format; she then added thanks to all the volunteers past and present for all the hours of work they provided to produce these results.

Nava Tabak gave a visual presentation of how the maps can be used, individually and as overlays by individuals, contractors and planners for both small and large scale development.  Ms. Tabak stated that sources for the data came from federal, state and county sources; errors are to be found in the maps as they are only representations (the primary error is the scale); they can be used as a great starting point (they are not worthless) and are constantly being up-dated.

Supervisor McDonough complimented the Commission for the incredible job they did on the maps and the narratives which are available on-line; the overlays are not currently available.

With no comments being made by either the Town Board or the public at this time (8:05 pm) the Supervisor ended the presentation but left the public hearing open for further comments.


2). PUBLIC HEARING ON 2011 BUDGET:  The Notice of Public Hearing was read by the Town Clerk.  The hearing was opened at 8:05 pm. with comments from the Supervisor that the tentative and preliminary budgets are “wish lists” from the department heads which will be refined with conversation/comments from the Board and the public which is the purpose of this hearing.

Patrick Jordan addressed the Board by stating that the budget is up 14.3%, $331,000 of which is to be raised in taxes; he continued that he respects the Board but that this is not their best work; the tax payers are saying “no more taxes”, are you listening.  Mr. Jordan cited the Town of Esopus with 0% increase (no raises for employees) in their budget, City of Kingston 6.5%; this is our last shot for in-put into the budget, tax increases must be stopped at the grass roots.  Mr. Jordan offered the following suggestions for reducing the proposed budget: 1) Salaries; no increases; he noted that increases ranged from 2-3% and even a 5%; contract obligations can’t be helped.  2). Discretionary Funds; mandated costs can’t be helped which accounts for 65% of the budget but that leaves 35% as discretionary where hard cuts have to be made. 3). Recreation Budget; this is not a mandated item; the main gripe here is $34,000 for the recreation manager; this is more than the supervisor, town clerk or bookkeeper.  Mr. Jordan stated that he had a one-on-one conversation with Supervisor McDonough and he could not define the exact job responsibilities for the position; need for a 40 hour position was questioned and also the fact that the employee has an addition job outside of the Town during the usual work hours; this had always been a part-time position and seemed to work well.

Ken Oldehoff commented that he doesn’t begrudge salaries and he was happy that the pool opened on time this year.

Doug Jones commented that many people are not getting raises; he is concerned that if taxes don’t stop rising he may be unable to stay in town.

Edward Williams commented that his primary residence is in New Jersey but he has a secondary home here; he questioned whether a police force is mandated; Supervisor McDonough responded that the state does not mandate a police force.  Mr. Williams suggested that a study be done of crime statistics in local towns that do not have their own police forces (Esopus and Marbletown); $441,000 without benefits (over ½ million dollars when benefits are included) is a lot of money; think outside the box.  Mr. Williams said he does not have garbage service, mail or road services at his property; he agrees with Mr. Jones’ sentiments.

Henry Jordan stated that he was an accountant; he cited the supervisor’s department as being up 5% this year and 20% in each of the last two years, why; $3,000 in the town clerk line that has not been expended, why is it still in there; election expenses are out of site (Supervisor McDonough responded that these are mandated costs); Buildings is up $85,000, he thought this appeared “padded” (it was explained that this includes phones, electric, contractual expenses); Special Items Unallocated, this is liability insurance etc.; Police Unallocated (this is being held for three years against salary settlement for contract under negotiation); Schools of Instruction (Supervisor McDonough stated that some of the schooling is mandated for continuing education); Programs for the Aging, nice to have if we have the money; Pool budget is up from $67,000 to $87,000 ( Supervisor and Councilman Hassett explained that we subsidize the operation of the pool; Mr. Hassett added “more than we like to”); Youth Camp, charge more (Supervisor McDonough noted that we re-coupe that revenue and we added an additional session).

Tim Morrison asked if employees contribute to their health care costs; Supervisor McDonough responded they do, non-contract employees contributed 15%; Highway (they have a contract) contribute about 15%; Police contribute 0%); Mr. Morrison suggested that we check with other municipalities to see what their employees are contributing; Supervisor McDonough stated that 15% is pretty standard.

Betty Greenwald stated that this is no time for any increases; this is a poor community and any increase is reprehensible.

Rayne Kouhout, Recycling Coordinator, stated she has been doing this work for 17 years, the fees have been raised twice; there are two employees in her department and she nets $20,000 + per year by breaking down recyclable materials, which is very hard work in all kinds of weather.  Supervisor McDonough noted that the Transfer Station brings in more money than the cost of operation and does a terrific job; Mr. H. Jordan, Mr. Jones agreed that the Transfer Station is the best department and Ms. Greenwald said that Rayne deserves a raise, look at the work they do.

Doug Jones asked if we have looked into coverage by the Sheriff’s Office as opposed to the Town Police; Supervisor McDonough stated that it’s different coverage especially the over night shift where the Sheriff has three cars covering the county so response could be slow.  Mr. Jones asked if they would charge for the service; Supervisor McDonough responded that he did not know.

Henry Jordan questioned the Medical Insurance line increase; Supervisor McDonough said that the increase is correct and that figure could double for 2011.

Sarah Charlop-Powers stated that an energy audit was done on the five buildings owned by the Town; it has suggestions that could save money and shows the cost of implementation and how long it will take to re-coupe the investment.  Ms. Charlop-Powers stated that she would be happy to meet with the Town to go over the audit; she further stated that Central Hudson will pay up to 70% of the cost of lighting upgrades.

Councilwoman Greene said that meeting should take place with the different facilities to see where changes can be made; Supervisor McDonough added that a sit-down should be done with Carl Hornbeck and Shawne Rider to see what can be accomplished.

Alex Ferguson stated that the full audit reports are available on-line; Supervisor McDonough requested that Mr. Ferguson e-mail him the address.

Betsy Tuel asked if there would be a chance to review the revised budget prior to adoption; Patrick Jordan said they had an opportunity to reduce the budget before this, do you trust they will do it in a week; Supervisor McDonough responded “come and see”, we will try to have copies available.

Sandy Peterson replied that she doesn’t mistrust government.

Edward Williams asked when the budget needed to be adopted by; Supervisor McDonough responded that it must be adopted by 11/20/10.  Mr. Williams said he realizes that the Town Board can not get rid of the police in one week but it should be considered; Supervisor McDonough replied that there is a process which must be initiated by the public through a petition.

Tim Morrison complemented the Highway Department for changing the windows and insulting areas of the garage on their own; he applauded their effort.

Jennifer Metzger stated that an energy conservation grant was applied for but we did not receive it; most of the u-grades are of small cost; Supervisor McDonough responded that perhaps some money could be used from the Capital Fund to proceed with the up-grades.

Henry Jordan questioned the increases in the Highway budget items DA5110.41 of $10,000 (no figure in 2009) which was explained as being for engineering studies for sidewalks on James Street; an increase of nearly 50% in DA5130.2 from the actual expenditure in 2009 was explained as equipment that will need to be replaced or up-graded; Mr. Jordan said that the budget should be based on what you actually spend rather than what was budgeted.

After the explanation for the $10,000 for engineering studies for sidewalks a rather lengthy discussion ensued with questions being raised as to whether the whole town would have to pay for sidewalks in specific areas that don’t benefit the whole town.  Councilman Hassett agreed that $10,000 is a lot of money for a study especially when we don’t have it; he suggested that we look into forming a sidewalk district; Supervisor McDonough added that studies have to be done in order to obtain grants.  Several residents expressed disgust that money is always going to Main Street and James Street projects and they don’t want to pay for them.

Betty Greenwald asked why we are talking about sidewalks when the pool is so shabby; Councilman Gallagher stated that we have put over $60,000 into the pool in the last three years; it would take a ½ million dollars to replace the pool and that would necessitate floating a bond which the tax payers are not going to want.

A motion was made by Supervisor McDonough to close the public hearing at 9:05 pm; seconded by Councilman Hassett.  Roll Vote: 5 Yeses.


Sarah Charlop-Powers from the Environmental Commission presented an informational sheet to the Board and the Town Clerk containing recommendations from an energy audit which was done through New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA) for conservation measures that can be instituted in the five Town owned buildings.  A brief discussion followed; a review will be conducted in each building to see what improvements can be made that will have the lowest cost and highest return and could be done in-house.


3). DISCUSSION AED’S(Automated External Defibrillators):  Police Chief Perry Soule has recommended the Town contract with Heart Masters from New Paltz to perform a review and assessment of the Town’s current program and make recommendations to assure regulatory compliance and conforms to the American Heart Assn. standards.  The review/assessment is expected to take 20 hours at the rate of $75 per hour pro-rated in 30 minute intervals.  Councilman Hassett asked what we will receive for our $1,500; Chief Soule stated that the Town presently has seven machines; the contract will include staff training on the use of the machines and CPR to AHA standards; they will audit department records and create logs; this will bring us into OSHA compliance which we have not had since Andy Buboltz left.  Councilman Hassett stated that he would like to see units added at the Youth Office, Transfer Station, Highway, and Building & Assessors Offices.


4). DISCUSSION STORMWATER MANAGEMENT: Supervisor McDonough advised that Carl Hornbeck and Tom Fiore are currently handling the MS-4 program and doing all the associated work and he would recommend hiring a consultant who can devote exclusive time to the program where Carl and Tom cannot.  Jennifer Metzger that MS-4 is really a fulltime job for people who already have a fulltime job.  Councilman Hassett asked if we have looked into other consultants besides Barbara Kendell; Supervisor McDonough responded “no”, he will check but doesn’t think we can do any better. Councilwoman Greene said she thought fees for engineering should be passed on to the applicants; Ms. Kendell would be charging $75 per hour for minimal services; Councilwoman Greene also suggested that training should be coordinated with the Rondout Creek Watershed to help keep costs down.


5). RESOLUTION: A resolution will be presented next week to authorize signing the Ulster County STOP DWI Funding Contract for 2011.


6). RESOLUTION: A resolution will be presented next week to adopt the 2011 Town of Rosendale Budget.


7). DISCUSSION: A discussion will take place next week on the revisions that are being made to the Town Fire Prevention Law which will be in draft form.


PICKLEFEST:  Billy Liggan was present and stated that he had communicated with Police Chief Perry Soule who was also present and there were no unresolved issues having to do with the site plan as presented.

A motion was made by Councilman Gallagher to accept the 2010 Picklefest site plan as presented; seconded by Supervisor McDonough.  Roll Vote: 5Yeses.


8). EXECUTIVE SESSION:  A motion was made by Supervisor McDonough to enter Executive Session at 9:30 pm for the purpose of discussing continuing police contract negotiations with Chief Soule; seconded by Councilman Minissali.  Roll Vote: 5 Yeses


Out of Executive Session at 10:15 pm; no decisions were made.


Supervisor McDonough left after the Executive Session at 10:20 pm.



Abstract #10 (cont’d):

            GENERAL FUND VOUCHER’S #975-976 TOTALING $     386.06

Abstract #11:

            GENERAL FUND                       #977-1026                   $17,829.14

            HIGHWAY FUND                      #225-236                     $  2,744.58

            SEWER FUND                            #157-161                     $     450.58

            WATER FUND                           #165-169                     $      483.24


A motion was made by Councilwoman Greene to pay the vouchers; seconded by Councilman Gallagher.  Roll Vote: 4 Yes, 1 Absent.


A motion was made by Councilman Hassett to adjourn at 10:45 pm; seconded by Councilman Minissali.  Roll Vote: 4 Yes, 1 Absent.


                                                                                    Respectfully submitted,



                                                                                    Joan S. Jordan

                                                                                    Town Clerk